LCI Academy/Kids Club – Seo Gwangju: Chipyeong-dong, Gwangju

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LCI Academy/Kids Club - Seo Gwangju: Chipyeong-dong, Gwangju


Location: 4FL, 1234-4 Kids Building, Chipyeong-dong, Seo-gu
Phone: 062-371-0552
Website: http://www.lcigwangju.com/

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Star January 3, 2010 at 7:54 pm

LCI Kids Club Gwangju

I would strongly advise anyone against accepting a position at this school. The school is extremely disorganized and notorious for mistreating and firing employees.

All foreign teachers are housed in a dirty, unsafe area of the city known to most locals as “hooker hood”. Most of the apartments are old, dirty and loud, not to mention that many of them have serious mold problems which have caused several teachers to get sick.

The owners are very disorganized and are constantly making changes without consulting employees. They also regularly make mistakes on paychecks. They are also very rude to employees and don’t speak English very well. They are particularly rude to female employees.

This school does not provide National Health Insurance or National Pension Plan to its employees, this is ILLEGAL under Korean law and results in employees paying full price for all medical services. As well, since the school does not pay into the pension plan this results in a loss of about $1200 per year for each individual employee.

The hours at the school are unreasonably long. All employees work 9:30-6 and most are forced to work overtime which means staying until 7:00 or 7:30, overtime is not optional. Also, there is not enough prep time in the schedule for any employee to finish all of the necessary work so most employees end up working longer hours without pay.

Employees are also required to prepare a kindergarten graduation skit complete with songs and dances which requires more unpaid hours of work. As well all employees are forced to work Saturdays when requested.

There are many far better jobs in Korea, don’t make the mistake of accepting a position with this school.

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I Liked It January 19, 2010 at 4:38 am

I worked at this hagwon and had a different experience than Star. I can’t comment on other jobs in Korea because I don’t know…I’m sure if you are reading this you can do that research yourself. I also can’t comment on the pension or insurance issues. I never went to the hospital, but I was told those that did were reimbursed. I know I didn’t get pension, but if that is against Korean law, I don’t know.

I never heard of our housing area called “Hooker Hood.” True, it was full of economy one-room apartments, which I had been told were populated with teachers, college students and hookers. But by no means did I feel like I was in a slum. The area actually boasts an exciting nightlife with a few bars and many restaurants. More than anything, it has countless clothing boutiques. My apartment was small, but not dirty or loud. The only noise I heard was from a coworker who would sing in the shower every morning. I do remember a case of a teacher having mold in his apartment, but I always thought the mold that made him sick was from his bed. This was also our Lead Teacher, and he had picked this apartment himself (and bought the bed, if it was indeed the culprit). If there was another case of mold, I don’t know.

Overtime. It was explained to me before I started that some teachers may want OT and not get it and others may not want it but have to do it. It is in the contract. If that is a problem, don’t sign your name. I personally didn’t mind the one extra class per day considering the money it put on my check. I was paid 22,000 Won my second year for an hour of OT, and it ended up being almost 500,000 Won a month extra. Speaking of pay, I never once was paid late. If the 10th fell on the weekend, I was paid the Friday before. Every time. The only time my paycheck was wrong was on the first month of my second contract when they didn’t adjust for my new pay scale, which I showed them and it was immediately remedied.

The bosses speak English. I have never once had to slow my speech or explain my meaning. They both attended a university in America. I am not a woman, so I cannot refute Star’s claim that they are rude to females. I can say I have not seen it, and they have always been more that courteous to me. They are busy people, so disorganized…maybe. But they are the first to admit it and simply ask for you to remind them of a request. Trust me, it’s not a problem. I’m not sure about what changes to which Star refers, so I’ll skip it.

Working hours, like OT, are stated in the contract. 9:30-5:50, or up until 7:20 with OT. This time includes a full hour lunch, a half-hour free break, ten minute intervals between class and at least 30 minutes of prep (9:30-10:00 is prep, but most teachers have an additional 40 min prep once or twice a week). If these hours are too long, don’t sign the contract.

We only worked three Saturdays a year: one for Graduation and two Parent-Teacher Conferences. There were additional Saturdays that they requested help, but they offered alternatives if you couldn’t. For example, they had an open house and they wanted the teachers to come and play games with prospective families on a Saturday. As an incentive, they closed the hagwon on an upcoming Friday for a weekend when we had Monday off as a national holiday, giving us a five day weekend. If you couldn’t come or didn’t want to come to the open house, they made work available on that Friday, going through reading books and creating vocabulary lists. Boring, I know, but by no means a mandatory Saturday.

Graduation is a lot of work, but my most cherished souvenir is the edited DVD of the classes singing and dancing and speaking English they present to the parents and teachers at the end of the year.

If you have an offer from this school, try to email or speak with as many teachers there as possible. Of the twenty teachers I worked with, I would estimate 75% having an equally or more favorable review that me.

AND READ YOUR CONTRACT!
Good luck!

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Batman January 26, 2010 at 11:48 am

I LIKED STAR’S REVIEW!
I totally agree with Star’s perfect assessment of LCI, and after reading the well-written and obviously biased rebuttal written by “I liked it,” I have a pretty good guess at the member of middle management who “took it upon themselves” to attempt at discrediting Star’s accurate response (“I liked it” was probably told to do so by those who pay his cheques).
“I liked it” disregarded many of the details of Star’s post. He completely brushed over Star’s complaints about LCI’s refusal to pay into National Health Insurance and the National Pension Plan. Anyone who does their research about these would understand that they are every workers’ rights in Korea, for both Korean and foreign English teachers alike.
“I liked it” claimed that his pay cheques were on time each week, but I am doubting the diligence of his time-keeping because if he kept track of the hours worked each month he would be surprised at how much money was “forgotten” each month. I found it funny how each “mistake” made by the owners was always to the business’ benefit. If you don’t keep track of your pay checks they will inevitably take money from you.
To add to Star’s list of complaints, the taxes that are filed by the boss for each teacher are recorded as if his full-time employees are actually part-time. Although he was collecting the full amount of tax money from the employees off each pay cheque, he was not paying this amount to NTS (National Tax Services), but instead, pocketing the difference. This is blatantly illegal. Despite the fact that many hagwons are incorporated in dubious actions regarding taxes, health insurance and pensions, there are plenty of other institutions which are not involved in this sort of illegality. Look for a better hagwon.
“I liked it” has the right to his opinion, but based on my own experiences and those of my co-workers and friends, the viewpoints of “I liked it” represent the minority, and I would argue, offer a very slanted and unreliable representation of LCI Kids Club Gwangju.
Ask as many questions as you can before taking a job at this hagwon. If I had known the things I know now, before I accepted the job, I would have never worked for LCI.
Great work, Star!
Also,
I encourage everyone who needs more advice and insight to email me at;
Ginsengtea1981@gmail.com

Take care,
-Batman

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Glad I Left January 26, 2010 at 8:59 pm

I agree with Star and Batman’s views on LCI. My own time there was not pleasant.

The owners of the location are underhanded and manipulative. I can confirm that they were not only late with my paycheck 4 times, but on several occasions there was a discrepancy between what I should have been paid based on hours clocked and what I was actually paid: I only brought this up to the owners once because when I did they said, “Oh, we made a mistake”–and then they charged me some random fee of 40,000 more won to punish me and I didn’t get paid for the hours anyway.

Batman mentions the issues of tax returns and Star mentions issues of pension and health care. Both of their assessments are correct. When I was at LCI, when the tax returns came around, only the owners’ favored teachers received anything. Not only is this against the law, but you are losing out on so much money! LCI does not fulfill the law for the pension or tax payments, and they register most of their teachers as part-time even though all of LCI’s teachers work way more than most other hagwons. There is no pension at all, which is illegal. They say this saves you money, but really, all it does is save them money because the school is required to match the payments you make into the pension fund–and the teacher gets the entire amount back when they leave Korea!

Health care was a joke–the owner would pay off the hack doctors at the sketchy hospital down the street. I knew people who went into the hospital because of injuries, and the care they received was substandard. When a complaint was made, the owner said, “I wash my hands of you.” When you are sick or injured in a foreign country, where you don’t speak the language well, you want to have things explained to you. No attempt was made to do this. That friend had to figure things out on her own and attempt to get adequate medical care somewhere else.

The owners also foster a sense of division in their teachers. They actively discourage interaction between the Korean and foreign teachers, to the point that some of the Korean teachers were told they would be fired if they talked to us about anything other than work-related issues. They also try to adopt naive or easily manipulated foreigners like “I Liked It” so that they have someone to toady to them. The owners love to flex their power and feel in control. If they don’t like you, they also do things like schedule you on the longest possible flight out of the country (even though there were openings on a direct flight from Incheon for the same cost) or come up with erroneous charges for your last set of bills. I’m still curious why my final bills were expected to be double their usual cost, or in the case of my flight (I was leaving from a location other than Incheon by request) my ticket was $200 more expensive (even though I looked up the cost for that flight online and it was the same cost as a flight from Incheon).

As far as “hooker hood” is concerned, “I Liked It” is flat out lying. He knows full well what his neighborhood is called among the foreign community. The apartments are small, they are dirty, and LCI is very slow on fixing anything that goes wrong. I was without hot water for two weeks. Eventually, I told the owners I wasn’t shaving until they fixed my water. That didn’t go over well and they ignored me. So I didn’t shave. When they saw I was serious, they eventually did fix the hot water, although not without rearranging my teaching schedule so that I lost my favorite afternoon classes (it was, unfortunately, near the term change when this happened). I didn’t have much of a problem with noise at my location, but I did hear the hostess girls and hookers come up the stairs about 4am every morning in their high heels. I eventually got used to that part. Other teachers were not so lucky and had constant traffic noise. I saw the mopeds swoosh by with a scantily clad girl sitting side-saddle on the back, or the cars pull up driven by a Korean gangster and four or five girls pile out and vanish for an hour before returning to the car and driving off. We used to make it a game of watching them from the GS Mart on the corner while we drank beer. “I Liked It” sat there with us, watching on more than a dozen occasions!

OT was mandatory. You “got a preference” but if they suddenly had extra classes and no one wanted them, then you got it anyway. In other ways, they would sometimes cut classes (affecting your monthly “salary”). This happened to me, as at that point I had stood up to them more than once and they had begun to not like me. They definitely try to play favorites. As for Saturdays, when I worked there, all teachers had to attend the two parent-teacher conferences (one per term). However, I know that after I left, there was an additional Saturday added that was required for their second attempt at “English Village” (like a school fair)–in the sense that if you didn’t do it, the owners would do everything they could to make your life a living hell.

The graduation day is another day we worked on Saturday while I was at LCI (this is stipulated in the contract). Practice for the graduation play takes up most of January and February’s teaching time. The owners are viciously cruel to children who aren’t as coordinated or as talented as the others, belittling them. On the day itself, they stick 200 or so little kids (4-6 years old) in one of two cramped rooms with little water, and force them into uncomfortable costumes for 10 hours. It is pure torture for those kids, who spend most of the day waiting for their two dance/play performances to occur.

The owners of LCI Gwangju are extremely racist as well. They are a husband and wife team, the man is Korean and the woman is Thai. The man is worse than the women here (he hates pretty much all non-Koreans as far as I can tell). We had several African-American teachers working with us when I was there, and they treated them as second-class people. In addition, they were extremely culturally and racially insensitive. While some of this is simply Korean’s lack of perception of these things (they are in a very homogenous ethnic and cultural group, after all) the owners have been working with foreigners for over 10 years and should know better. They both even lived in the USA! But when things were pointed out as offensive (like asking the African-American and the Indian-Canadian teacher to do a “tribal dance” to represent Africa in the English Village event), they didn’t care.

LCI is also extremely disorganized. The owners say one thing, then immediately change the rule and say something else. While this isn’t exclusive to LCI, it is much worse there than many other hagwons.

As far as the bosses speaking English, they don’t do it well. Part of it is a thick accent, but other parts are simple lack of interest in keeping their English up to par. They don’t care about speaking English. Odd notion for owners of an English academy. Much of the time, the owners pretend not to understand English well so it suits their purposes, sort of a “Oh, I don’t understand your complaint,” when it really is “I don’t care about your problem.” This willful lack of communication is unacceptable.

LCI is not a good place to work. The franchise in general has a bad reputation, and LCI Gwangju is worse than most. The pay is only average, and the lack of consistency in the pay times/amounts brings that below average. The vacation days, a week in summer and a week in winter, are typical but not the best of any hagwon. The lack of law-required pension, health, and tax benefits are an issue. These cause you to loose the equivalent of several months’ pay at the completion of your contract. The owners are shady and lack integrity–as do the head teachers. These people are toadies, selected not to be your advocate with the bosses (as they should be) but to make sure the status quo is maintained and no one complains too much. I think it is funny that “I Liked It” mentions reading your contract; the head teacher of LCI Gwangju told me “a contract in English isn’t binding in Korea.” That, by the way, is a lie. Your contract is as legally binding in English as it is in Korean, don’t let them cheat you. When I worked there (and “I Liked It” was there too) over 50% of the teachers hated the school.

Dress code. LCI has one. Fine. But it is a ridiculous dress code for teaching kindergarten. Men must wear slacks and collared shirt. While we finger paint and children puke on things. Not smart. I ruined several pairs of slacks and a couple of shirts while working at LCI. The women’s dress code was less clear to me, so you’d have to get that from Star or someone else.

They play the foreign and Korean teachers off each other to create a workplace filled with distrust. The hours are very long for a hagwon, with required days and OT that other hagwons do not. They house you in what amounts to a slum in Korea (which, mind you, is very different from a slum elsewhere, everything is relative; even so, this wouldn’t be a nice neighborhood no matter how you present it, filled with bars and hookers).

Don’t work here. There are better opportunities in Korea. I moved to a different hagwon after I left LCI, and I’m glad I did. It has renewed my opinion of the country. My pay and hours are considerably better, I get vacation when I want to take it (and over 3 weeks of it), and I am always paid by direct deposit the second to last day of the month. Also, all of my Korean coworkers speak wonderful English and are encouraged to talk with us. There is no dress code beyond “don’t wear things too revealing.” I wear shorts and a t-shirt to work when it’s hot. I can have a beard. I can wear sweaters and jeans or cargo pants when it’s cold. Do some research and find a better job than LCI.

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Superman February 9, 2010 at 1:03 am

I find these posts funny. Everything that has been written here are just exaggerated or lies. I have never been paid late and in fact am paid on the 10th each month or before if it falls on a weekend.

Regarding pension and health care it is not illegal to not provide pension. You can only have pension if you pay into the national health care. If a school or its teachers they can have private health care such as AIG or any other health care. Lci has asked if we wanted the national health care but at that time no one wanted to pay the extra fee each month to have it. AND tax returns are based on how much money you spend in the country. If you get a tax return card from the korean state and use it when you make purchases or you use your korean debit card you can get money back. But it depends on how much money you spend in the country and how you spend it. Cash doesn’t work as there is no way for the gov’t to trace it back.

The health care and the doctors around aren’t hack or bad, they are just different. Besides, go to what hospital you want. No one forces you to go to Sangmoo Hospital. You can go wherever you want. Medical care is different in each country you go to. Sorry! It’s the same as the apartments. This isn’t America. It’s Korea. Apartments are different here. Of course, they are small. Again, it’s Korea. Why would you think you are getting a pension or mansion when most single Koreans live there as well. and what is this hooker hood thing about? I have asked many people and they have never heard of it. People that have been here longer than you. AND those establishments have left anyways and have relocated somewhere else.

The OT part was sometimes not mandatory and you did have to teach it. Some people that did happen to. As far as the OT and cutting classes. Sometimes the students have special things they need to attend to and can’t go to class. What can you do? Nothing, but complain apparently! and yes LCI does require you to work some saturdays! Everyone knows that sometimes LCI requires you to work saturdays. Conferences, Graduation, English Village. It’s not like Graduation or conferences just pop up on you. Maybe an English Village though, you are only given 3 weeks notice or so.

The graduation day is on Saturday. It’s about 3 or 4 hours. 10 hours. c’mon. That is exaggerating again along with most things in this review. The bosses are racist and speak poor English. Maybe it is you being racist. It is their 2nd and 3rd language. How many do you speak? A lot of the comments are hearsay and again guess what? It’s Korea!!

Dress codes and such. Since when is wearing slacks and a collared shirt wrong for men? You are a teacher, accept it. You should know you are going to get something dirty with finger paint or something. God Forbid, you pants or something gets dirty when you are teaching young kids. Who would have known?

The foreign teachers and the korean teachers hang out quite a bit. If you are nice to them, then they like you and then you might hang out with them. A lot of teachers do this on a weekly basis. It’s a shocker, I know.

Last, I will say LCI has its problems. No doubt about it. But, they aren’t the ones people are talking about. Opinion need to be expressed and told but not 3rd party things. Much of these posts are written from what other people have said and what has been heard from someone else. At least write on the things you have experienced or have seen and not other peoples comments.

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Glad I Left March 4, 2010 at 7:05 am

The bit about the tax return card is very amusing, considering I’m not talking about sales tax. Income tax. I’m talking about income tax. Foreigners are supposed to get most of that back.

Everything I wrote about, unless otherwise specified, either happened to me or I witnessed it first hand. Korea is different than America or Canada–or anywhere else. But that’s not what we are talking about here; I’ve seen good and bad hospitals, apartments, and people in Korea. LCI has a habit of being involved in the bad ones. I’m glad I changed schools, because at my new job I am experiencing how wonderful this country can actually be when I’m dealing with people who are not shady.

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