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		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t recommend it. When it became apparent to me that I couldn&#039;t trust my supervisors to deal with me on an ethical and professional basis, then......my opinion of them changed 180 degree.

My problems basically come strictly from a gal known as Angelica, AKA: Mrs. Oh. I had a couple of warning signs almost from day one but, wanting to be a good trooper, I let&#039;em slide.

The very first day I got there, they put me in a little 11&#039; x 11&#039; box, with a tiny offset kitchen and a tiny offset bathroom and a tiny, tiny porch laundry room.

Yeah, I know.....there are stories of people getting similar places. But I know people who had
much larger places even in Seoul. I had a much larger place in my prevous (first) school in Jingeon. So, I didn&#039;t buy her story that this little crackerbox they put me in was all that their budget would allow in Suwon.

I think the reason they put me in there was because by doing so they&#039;d avoid haveing to put down &#039;key money&#039;. That....and/or the possibility that somebody at school was getting a kickback.

But I let that slide too.

Shortly thereafter there was another incident. I forget what it was, but (thinking she was my supervisor....which she later claimed not to be) I had a situation where I needed her help. She was too busy to bother and I&#039;ll always remember her comment as she walked out the door: &quot;That&#039;s your problem.&quot;

But I let that slide too.

Things rocked along all year. The students acted like Korea kids do. I had the usual occasional problems with kids sleeping in class, not paying attention, lack of participation, etc. but, in perspective, I knew that&#039;s part of the Korean ESL situation and I didn&#039;t really have any problems teaching them.

Actually, of the three levels of kids that I taught, I liked the Level 1 (the youngest) kids the best because they were the most enthusiastic.

Nor did I have any teaching relationship problems with any of the Korean coteachers (there were 4)......including Angelica.

The food in the cafeteria is fair. Their kim-chi is very hot. And they do serve a lot of squid.

The incident that turned my opinion of the school around a complete 180 degrees was the way Angelica and the school handled the negotiations for the renewal of my contract.

I just in the last few days have gone back and looked at my original contract and I noted that they were supposed to have settled the issue of my renewal or non-renewal 60 days prior to my End-of-Contract (EOC) date (which happens also to coincide with my visa expiration date).

That didn&#039;t happen.

By 3-4 weeks prior to that time, we had verbally discussed it and agreed that I wanted to stay and they (i.e. she) wanted me to stay. So, one day about 3 weeks ago Angelica finishes working up a new contract and puts it in front of me to sign.

I looked at it and noticed that my pay grade was 2.2 mil KW.....which included the extra allowances for my 2.5 years within the GEPIK system and the fact that I had a Masters (I think it included the Masters anyway). I looked at that figure and I just naturally felt it was kinda low. So I commented on it.

Angelica and I got into a discussion of that and it turns out that she hadn&#039;t included in the computations the fact that I have an undergraduate degree in Education (Bachelor of Music Education). At that point I didn&#039;t know exactly what the pay guidelines said but I did have an idea of what I thought was &#039;right&#039;.

So, even though that also meant that I&#039;d been screwed out of 100,000 KW each of the previous 12 months I&#039;d been there (i.e. because they hadn&#039;t credited me for having an &#039;education&#039; degree), I was willing to let that slide too. I didn&#039;t come over here to get rich but I did resent the fact that they weren&#039;t competant enough in their jobs to figure out my pay grade correctly.

Then I asked Angelica to check up on me getting that extra 100,000KW per month for my new contract.

A few hours later she tells me that she&#039;d checked with somebody at GEPIK (who later turned out to be Dain Bae) and was told that my Music Education degree didn&#039;t qualify for an &#039;Education&#039; degree. I contested that point and told Angelica that I wasn&#039;t going to sign the
contract.....and I thought I made it clear why.

She got all huffy. I was really totally amazed at her total change of character. And partly also because I couldn&#039;t believe that she could be so oblivious to my side of the debate. What&#039;s wrong with me getting paid what GEPIK guidelines say I should get paid?

And actually, I kinda wondered where she was getting her information from (at that time I didn&#039;t know who she&#039;d been talking to).

That evening I got an email from my recruiter on my first job here in Korea. He sent me the information he had on GEPIK pay guidlines. It clearly listed 4 factors, any one of which would qualify a teacher for 2.3 mill KW. I met 2 or 3 (I forget which) of those criteria.

So I&#039;m thinking, &quot;Ahhh....there&#039;s been a misunderstanding. I&#039;ll try to clarify it with Angelica tomorrow.

Next day, early in the morning, I approach her and tell her, &quot;I think there&#039;s been a misunderstanding and I know why. Can I show you this?&quot;

She cuts me short and informs me that she had another conversation with so-and-so at GEPIK and was informed that I was beyond their maximum age requirements and they couldn&#039;t hire me anyway. Note: nothing said about any of the other supposed reasons for my reduced pay on the proposed new contract.

Do you see a pattern here?

They keep changing their story about why they don&#039;t want to renew my contract.

As fortune would have it, I have since secured other employment, at a 40% pay raise, but it&#039;s very apparent to me that Sangchon hasn&#039;t been totally honest and fair with me. They were fully ready and willing to re-hire me as long as I was willing to work for 2.2 mil. And considering that to the best of my knowledge, nobody ever had any complaints about my performance as a teacher, I don&#039;t think that my teacher performance had anything to do with them not renewing me.

It&#039;s either got something to do with Angelica, the principle and/or GEPIK. I don&#039;t begrudge them
their right to have an age limit, but I do think they&#039;re obligated to apply it with reasonable limits of propriety. To fabricate reasons to just try to push me off the boat 3 weeks before my contract expires is, I think, indicative of a total lack of regard for my rights as an individual.

I know this has been a long story but I&#039;m providing this information because this site is supposed to help new foreign teachers make informed decisions about where to work. I think Korea can be a fun place to work and all-in-all I&#039;ve had a good time here.

But I&#039;ve learned that you really can&#039;t afford to trust these people to always &#039;do the right thing&#039;. I wouldn&#039;t work at Sangchon Middle School for any amount of money now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t recommend it. When it became apparent to me that I couldn&#8217;t trust my supervisors to deal with me on an ethical and professional basis, then&#8230;&#8230;my opinion of them changed 180 degree.</p>
<p>My problems basically come strictly from a gal known as Angelica, AKA: Mrs. Oh. I had a couple of warning signs almost from day one but, wanting to be a good trooper, I let&#8217;em slide.</p>
<p>The very first day I got there, they put me in a little 11&#8242; x 11&#8242; box, with a tiny offset kitchen and a tiny offset bathroom and a tiny, tiny porch laundry room.</p>
<p>Yeah, I know&#8230;..there are stories of people getting similar places. But I know people who had<br />
much larger places even in Seoul. I had a much larger place in my prevous (first) school in Jingeon. So, I didn&#8217;t buy her story that this little crackerbox they put me in was all that their budget would allow in Suwon.</p>
<p>I think the reason they put me in there was because by doing so they&#8217;d avoid haveing to put down &#8216;key money&#8217;. That&#8230;.and/or the possibility that somebody at school was getting a kickback.</p>
<p>But I let that slide too.</p>
<p>Shortly thereafter there was another incident. I forget what it was, but (thinking she was my supervisor&#8230;.which she later claimed not to be) I had a situation where I needed her help. She was too busy to bother and I&#8217;ll always remember her comment as she walked out the door: &#8220;That&#8217;s your problem.&#8221;</p>
<p>But I let that slide too.</p>
<p>Things rocked along all year. The students acted like Korea kids do. I had the usual occasional problems with kids sleeping in class, not paying attention, lack of participation, etc. but, in perspective, I knew that&#8217;s part of the Korean ESL situation and I didn&#8217;t really have any problems teaching them.</p>
<p>Actually, of the three levels of kids that I taught, I liked the Level 1 (the youngest) kids the best because they were the most enthusiastic.</p>
<p>Nor did I have any teaching relationship problems with any of the Korean coteachers (there were 4)&#8230;&#8230;including Angelica.</p>
<p>The food in the cafeteria is fair. Their kim-chi is very hot. And they do serve a lot of squid.</p>
<p>The incident that turned my opinion of the school around a complete 180 degrees was the way Angelica and the school handled the negotiations for the renewal of my contract.</p>
<p>I just in the last few days have gone back and looked at my original contract and I noted that they were supposed to have settled the issue of my renewal or non-renewal 60 days prior to my End-of-Contract (EOC) date (which happens also to coincide with my visa expiration date).</p>
<p>That didn&#8217;t happen.</p>
<p>By 3-4 weeks prior to that time, we had verbally discussed it and agreed that I wanted to stay and they (i.e. she) wanted me to stay. So, one day about 3 weeks ago Angelica finishes working up a new contract and puts it in front of me to sign.</p>
<p>I looked at it and noticed that my pay grade was 2.2 mil KW&#8230;..which included the extra allowances for my 2.5 years within the GEPIK system and the fact that I had a Masters (I think it included the Masters anyway). I looked at that figure and I just naturally felt it was kinda low. So I commented on it.</p>
<p>Angelica and I got into a discussion of that and it turns out that she hadn&#8217;t included in the computations the fact that I have an undergraduate degree in Education (Bachelor of Music Education). At that point I didn&#8217;t know exactly what the pay guidelines said but I did have an idea of what I thought was &#8216;right&#8217;.</p>
<p>So, even though that also meant that I&#8217;d been screwed out of 100,000 KW each of the previous 12 months I&#8217;d been there (i.e. because they hadn&#8217;t credited me for having an &#8216;education&#8217; degree), I was willing to let that slide too. I didn&#8217;t come over here to get rich but I did resent the fact that they weren&#8217;t competant enough in their jobs to figure out my pay grade correctly.</p>
<p>Then I asked Angelica to check up on me getting that extra 100,000KW per month for my new contract.</p>
<p>A few hours later she tells me that she&#8217;d checked with somebody at GEPIK (who later turned out to be Dain Bae) and was told that my Music Education degree didn&#8217;t qualify for an &#8216;Education&#8217; degree. I contested that point and told Angelica that I wasn&#8217;t going to sign the<br />
contract&#8230;..and I thought I made it clear why.</p>
<p>She got all huffy. I was really totally amazed at her total change of character. And partly also because I couldn&#8217;t believe that she could be so oblivious to my side of the debate. What&#8217;s wrong with me getting paid what GEPIK guidelines say I should get paid?</p>
<p>And actually, I kinda wondered where she was getting her information from (at that time I didn&#8217;t know who she&#8217;d been talking to).</p>
<p>That evening I got an email from my recruiter on my first job here in Korea. He sent me the information he had on GEPIK pay guidlines. It clearly listed 4 factors, any one of which would qualify a teacher for 2.3 mill KW. I met 2 or 3 (I forget which) of those criteria.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m thinking, &#8220;Ahhh&#8230;.there&#8217;s been a misunderstanding. I&#8217;ll try to clarify it with Angelica tomorrow.</p>
<p>Next day, early in the morning, I approach her and tell her, &#8220;I think there&#8217;s been a misunderstanding and I know why. Can I show you this?&#8221;</p>
<p>She cuts me short and informs me that she had another conversation with so-and-so at GEPIK and was informed that I was beyond their maximum age requirements and they couldn&#8217;t hire me anyway. Note: nothing said about any of the other supposed reasons for my reduced pay on the proposed new contract.</p>
<p>Do you see a pattern here?</p>
<p>They keep changing their story about why they don&#8217;t want to renew my contract.</p>
<p>As fortune would have it, I have since secured other employment, at a 40% pay raise, but it&#8217;s very apparent to me that Sangchon hasn&#8217;t been totally honest and fair with me. They were fully ready and willing to re-hire me as long as I was willing to work for 2.2 mil. And considering that to the best of my knowledge, nobody ever had any complaints about my performance as a teacher, I don&#8217;t think that my teacher performance had anything to do with them not renewing me.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s either got something to do with Angelica, the principle and/or GEPIK. I don&#8217;t begrudge them<br />
their right to have an age limit, but I do think they&#8217;re obligated to apply it with reasonable limits of propriety. To fabricate reasons to just try to push me off the boat 3 weeks before my contract expires is, I think, indicative of a total lack of regard for my rights as an individual.</p>
<p>I know this has been a long story but I&#8217;m providing this information because this site is supposed to help new foreign teachers make informed decisions about where to work. I think Korea can be a fun place to work and all-in-all I&#8217;ve had a good time here.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;ve learned that you really can&#8217;t afford to trust these people to always &#8216;do the right thing&#8217;. I wouldn&#8217;t work at Sangchon Middle School for any amount of money now.
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